If the shotgun is marked Hopkins and Allen manufacturing Company, Norwich Conn. It to be made in between circa 1880-1885 and 1898. If significant Hopkins and Allen arms Company, it was manufactured between 1898 and also 1915. No document are easily accessible to offer a more exact date of manufacture.

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Hopkins and also Allen to buy Forehand Arms firm and W.H. Davenport Arms agency in 1902 and continued to produce Davenport and also Forehand shotgun draft under the Davenport name till 1908 and also Hopkins and also Allen name till 1915. The Forehand surname was dropped ~ a few years.

Value would variety from $75 to $315 relying on mechanical condition and remaining original finish.

Value would range fron $



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Aaron Donnachie
3 years ago

What year was a Hopkins and Allen 30” barrel shotgun with serial number JL391 manufactured?



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Aaron Donnachie
3 year ago

Here are the images


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Two Old Dogs
3 years ago

Aaron: You have actually a Forehand brand-new Perfection model made in the period 1902-circa 1908. There room no records easily accessible to offer a much more exact date.

Hopkins and also Allen Arms firm purchased Forehand Arms company in 1902 and continued come manufacture many Forehand models under the H & A name.

This shotgun appears to be rather off face and not thought about safe to usage with contemporary ammunition

Retail worth for a pistol in the problem shown would selection from $50 to $100 depending on mechanical and also bore condition.


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Aaron Donnachie
3 year ago

Awesome say thanks to you!


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Mosb.com
3 year ago

Any details on mine? 20 gauge complete choked Hopkins and Allen arms firm norewich Conn matching numbers took it out now no problem.

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Two Old Dogs
3 years ago

Mosb: You have a new Model solitary Barrel gun No. 712 made in the duration 1913-1915. There room no records easily accessible to give a much more exact date.Retail value for a total in the condition shown would selection from $75 to $125 relying on mechanical and bore.


#12
Ferg
3 year ago

I"m sick of hearing: "I have!"

I require a firing pin for my H&A .20 gCan anyone help?


#13
Two Old Dogs
3 year ago

Ferg: What carry out you indicate being provided in place of "I have"?

Which model? H & A made around 13 various models in the peirod 1898-1915.

Please short article detailed pictures of both sides of the finish receiver area, both sides of the gun and readable, close-ups of all markings, consisting of patent days for identification and evaluation.


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Bob
3 years ago

Numrich


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Trevor
3 year ago

I was wondering what price range mine would certainly be in

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Trevor
3 years ago

Not sure ik that a H&A the serial # is 48828 however I nothing think that means much of anything


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Two Old Dogs
3 years ago

Trevor: The shotgun pictured is no a Hopkins and also Allen gun and I don"t identify the maker.

Your shotgun appears to be absent a create or the create is not correctly assembled and the screw in the behind of the cause guard is not original.

Retail value for a total in the condition shown would range from $75 come $150 depending on mechanical and bore condition.


#18
James
3 years ago

I have actually one v2 402 how old is this gun and how lot is it precious


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Two Old Dogs
3 years ago

James: You have a version 712 Forehand design made in the duration 1902-1908. There are no records easily accessible to offer a much more exact date.

Retail worth for a total in the problem shown would range from $50 to $100 depending on mechanical and bore condition and remaining initial wood and metal finish, assuming you have the removable hinge pin.


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James
3 year ago

Gun works fin and also has every the wood and also is in good shape and also has the hing pin


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Bruce
2 years ago

What about mine... It says Hopkins and Allen Arms firm Norwich c o n n USA in the serial number on the barrel is C 78622??


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Two Old Dogs
2 year ago

Bruce: there is no way to identify a firearm with simply a serial number.

I am in the procedure of moving and my referral library is sealed in boxes.

Please repost your question after around April 1 if you don"t obtain a answer in the typical time.

When friend repost the question, please write-up detailed pictures of both political parties of the gun and readable, close-ups of all markings, including serial number and also patent days for identification and evaluation.


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Oris Padgett
1 year ago

How old is a Hopkins and Allen double barrel v serial no 26980 that’s made in Greenwich Conn.


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Two Old Dogs
1 year ago

Oris Padgett: i m sorry model? there is no means to recognize a firearm with just a serial number.

Hopkins and also Allen Arms company was situated in Norwich, CT and produced 5 different models that hammer dual guns and also 7 various models the hammerless dual guns in the period 1899-1915.

Please short article detailed photos of both sides of the gun, both sides and top and bottom that the receiver area and also READABLE, close-ups of all markings including the barrel flats, barrel underside and also the structure watertable after ~ the barrels have been removed from the framework for identification and also evaluation.


#25
Rob
1 year ago

Two old dog , perhaps you can aid me obtain some information on this next by side.


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#26
Two Old Dogs
1 year ago

Rob: Seminole was a profession name deadline in my recommendations to Crescent Fire arms Company.

The pictured shotgun adorned v the Seminole surname is no a Crescent shotgun.

This is wherein the story it s okay convoluted.

These shotguns space side plated box lock guns, no side lock guns.

W.H. Davenport, Hopkins and Allen Arms agency and Iver Johnson Arms and Cycle functions all made shotguns that very closely resemble the shotgun snapshot posted.

W.H. Davenport seems to have been the very first to create his side plated shotgun circa 1901 and I can only assume the it was made utilizing the features of among his patents.

Hopkins and also Allen Arms agency had functioned with and used or purchase Davenport patented features because the mid 1880"s.

H & A"s design 110 shows up to be similar to the one pictured in this thread and also is date by some authorities circa 1901. Mine speculation is the a profession name Davenport made gun to be mis-identified as a H & A gun since some authorities display H & A buying W. H. Davenport Arms agency in 1909.

My references display that H & A make the design 110 shotgun in the duration circa 1909-1915, presumably using the functions of W. H. Davenport patents.

Now go into W. O. Barnes who patented patented a "Breech Loading Firearm" (i.e. Double barrel shotgun) that looked specifically like the H & A version 110 however had no pin going through the side plate. This patent is number 1,131,984 issued in march 16, 1915.

W.O. Barnes also patented a barrel locking device, patent number 1,137,045 authorize April 27, 1915.

What is unusual around the Barnes patents is the they were assigned to mary E. Johnson, Trustee that the estate and also widow the Iver Johnson.

Iver Johnson Arms and Cycle Works began producing dual barrel shotguns utilizing the functions of the Barnes patents shortly after the death of Hopkins and also Allen Arms company in 1915.

These Iver Johnson shotguns were sold (possibly exclusively) by Iver Johnson Sporting products Stores and, to my knowledge, never showed up in the Iver Johnson Arms and also Cycle functions catalogs.

Did the Barnes patents infringe top top the Davenport patents own by the now defunct Hopkins and Allen arms Company?

Only suspicious minds would certainly conjer up a conspiracy favor this.

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The bottom heat is I deserve to only guess that your Seminole trade name shotgun to be made by Hopkins and also Allen Arms agency in the duration circa 1909-1915. There are no records available to give a much more exact date.